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My name is Ana Gauna, Senior Business Systems Analyst, woman, Brazilian, native in City of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

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Museu Nacional[edit]

Olá, Ana. Eu notei que você está categorizando os artigos de itens da coleção do Museu Nacional na categoria "Museu Nacional". É importante, para efeitos de organização, que esses artigos fiquem nas categorias adequadas (as que estão listadas em "Collections of the Museu Nacional"). Do contrário, fica muito difícil a gente localizar os arquivos, se uma categoria tiver centenas ou milhares de imagens, perdemos muito tempo procurando. Em "collections of the Museu Nacional" há várias cateogrias que permitem organizar os objetos da coleção em espaços adequados, há uma categoria pra objetos pré-colombianos, outra pra arqueologia egípcia e assim por diante. Dornicke (talk) 18:59, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dornicke: Ontem e hoje eu olhei mais de 500 imagens e diversas categorias relativo ao Museu Nacional da UFRJ (Rio de Janeiro/Brazil), e notei que existe diversas categorias relativo a esse assunto em vários idiomas. Existe categorias iguais em idiomas diferentes também. Essas categorias precisam ser revistas e analisadas e organizadas. Relativo ao Brasil tudo tem que estar dentro da "Categoria Museu Nacional, Rio de Janeiro" para os cientistas da UFRJ, e os cientistas de Museologia da UNIRIO conseguirem encontrar as imagens. O Museu pegou fogo, teve incêndio, tem destroços, essas fotos são necessárias para eles poder identificar objetos.

E esse assunto está sendo informado aqui = https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Comunicado_sobre_o_Museu_Nacional , e esse assunto também está sendo discutido aqui = https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia_Discuss%C3%A3o:Comunicado_sobre_o_Museu_Nacional Ana Gauna (talk) 19:16, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Facebook da UFRJ = Página da UFRJ Ana Gauna (talk) 20:15, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Facebook da UNIRIO = Grupo UNIRIO Museologia Ana Gauna (talk) 20:15, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Esse assunto do Museu Nacional está sendo discutido aqui também = https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discuss%C3%A3o:Museu_Nacional_(Brasil) Ana Gauna (talk) 20:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ana, estou ciente de tudo isso, estou participando dos projetos desde o primeiro dia. Há basicamente categorias em inglês e português, mas todas já estão listadas na subcategoria "Collections of the Museu Nacional". As imagens estão acessíveis a todos os interessados, eles só precisam buscar na categoria correta, ou seja, a categoria de coleções do museu nacional. Isso é algo padronizado, se você pegar qualquer outra categoria de museu do Commons verá que há uma padronização. É uma árvore de categorias, a categoria principal (museu nacional) elenca as categorias chaves (coleção do museu, interior do museu, história do museu, etc.) e dentro de cada subcategoria, haverá categorias mais específicas (acervo zoológico, acervo arqueológico, acervo paleontológico, etc.). Isso inclusive facilita a consulta, pois a pessoa que esteja interessada, por exemplo, em consultar os fósseis do Museu Nacional pode ir direto na categoria e lá achar apenas os arquivos referentes aos fósseis do museu nacional. Eu nesse momento estou escrevendo um artigo sobre uma múmia do museu. SEria muito mais fácil procurar os arquivos na categoria "múmias do museu nacional" do que ter que passar quase mil imagens na categoria principal "museu nacional" tentando achá-la. O excesso de informação sem organização acaba atrapalhando. Isso tudo está previsto nas políticas de categorização do projeto, incluindo evitar a dupla categorização. Eu vinha trabalhando nessa categoria há três anos e tinha levado um bom tempo pra separar os arquivos nas categorias corretas e deixar tudo organizado. Dornicke (talk) 20:48, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Quero te fazer uma pergunta, em que Cidade e em que país fica o Museu Nacional? Você sabe? eu sei. Quem é BRASILEIRO irá procurar por essa informação aqui dentro é do idioma português. O Museu Nacional está localizado é no Brasil, na Cidade do Rio de Janeiro. As categorias em outros idiomas, é para quem não é BRASILEIRO poder se localizar. Para os BRASILEIROS encontrar essa informação, e poder encontrar outras informações de monumentos e objetos que estão localizados no Brasil, a categoria tem que estar em português, e identificado se o item é português do Brasil, ou se o item é português de Portugal. Ou se o item é português de Angola, etc. Quem tem o idioma nativo como sendo o português, irá procurar aqui dentro por objetos utilizando o idioma português. O Museu Nacional é Brasil. No Brasil o idioma falado por padrão é o português. O idioma inglês não é o idioma padrão do Brasil, no Brasil o padrão é o português. Assim como existe as categorias em inglês para facilitar quem tem o idioma inglês nativo. No Brasil a busca é feita em português sempre. Esse Museu Nacional ele está localizado no Brasil, no Rio de Janeiro, e ele é propriedade da Universidade do Rio de Janeiro (UFRJ), tem pessoas que irão fazer essa busca procurando por Museu da UFRJ ou como Museu da Quinta da Boavista. Quem mora no Rio de Janeiro (Brasil) não irá procurar a informação em inglês. Se a informação não estiver fácil informada no idioma português tem pessoas que irão pensar que a fotografia não existe aqui dentro. Ana Gauna (talk) 21:04, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sim, Ana, eu sei em que país fica o Museu Nacional - instituição onde eu trabalhei por cinco anos. Se você reparar, a maioria das imagens da coleção do Museu Nacional foram tiradas por mim, doadas ao projeto por mim e carregadas e categorizador por mim. O artigo do Museu Nacional na Wikipedia em português e em inglês foram escritos, majoritariamente, por mim. Esse projeto no Commons e Wikipedia para reunir imagens da coleção do museu foram iniciados por mim. E os novos artigos em português sobre a coleção do museu estão sendo escritos por mim. Em três anos, tive pouquíssima ajuda para organizar esse projeto, praticamente zero de brasileiros. Os que se interessavam pelo esforço de categorização dessa coleção era eu e alguns usuários estrangeiros. Por isso há tantas categorias em inglês. É chato você estar trabalhando em algo há três anos e uma pessoa chegar do nada desfazendo tudo que foi feito e desobedecendo toda a lógica organizacional do projeto. A categoria está uma bagunça, não dá pra achar mais nada lá. Qual é o problema de se organizar algo, Ana? Dornicke (talk) 22:44, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
E não faz sentido o que foi dito sobre "procurar a informação em inglês". Não há necessidade de procurar a informação em inglês. É só entrar na categoria de coleção do museu nacional e procurar pela categoria adequada. Muito mais fácil do que ficar olhando mais de mil imagens pra achar uma específica. Se a pessoa estiver procurando um objeto, basta digitar no campo de busca e ele será encontrado. Ele não precisa estar na categoria principal para ser achado se já há uma categoria mais adequada. Isso é praxis do projeto, é padrão. Por favor, insisto para que entre em outras categorias como a do Museu AMericano de História Natural, por exemplo, ou a do Museu Nacional de Belas Artes para ver como categorizamos. Dornicke (talk) 22:47, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dornicke: Desde que eu nasci, eu já fui dentro desse Museu Nacional da UFRJ uma centena de vezes... Quando eu era criança pequena o meu pai me levava lá dentro quase toda semana, depois eu ia no Zoológico, durante vários anos (era rotina) ...  :-) Ana Gauna (talk) 23:07, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Museu Nacional de Belas Artes = [1] Gostei. Ana Gauna (talk) 23:07, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Museu Nacional = [2] Gostei Ana Gauna (talk) 23:07, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Museu UFRJ = [3] Olhas as fotografias... Ana Gauna (talk) 23:07, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Museu da Quinta da Boa Vista = [4] Olha as fotografias... Ana Gauna (talk) 23:07, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Museu do Zoológico = [5] Olhas as fotografias... Ana Gauna (talk) 23:22, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ana, a categoria "Museu Nacional" [6] é um redirecionamento. Se a pessoa categorizar um objeto com esse nome, automaticamente ele é categorizado na página correta do museu. A mesma coisa se a pessoa categorizar em "National Museum of Brazil". É só uma ferramenta pra garantir a categoria correta. Se você entrar no site do próprio Museu Nacional e clicar na parte de acervo ou exposições, eles não vão apresentar 3 mil peças de uma vez, porque isso é excesso de informação não organizada, acaba não servindo pra muita coisa além de confundir e fazer perder tempo. Eles dividem: há um botão chamado "arqueologia", a pessoa clica lá e abre uma nova página com mais quatro opções: "arqueologia brasileira", "arqueologia mediterrânica", "arqueologia egípcia" e "arqueologia pré-colombiana". Se você clicar em "arqueologia brasileira" a página vai te mostrar o que você está procurando, que são artefatos arqueológicos brasileiros. Aqui é a mesma coisa. A pessoa entra na categoria da coleção, depois entre na sub-coleção e lá haverá outras divisões. Só que estão em inglês porque é a língua universal em um projeto de natureza universal. Os artigos tem descrições que são localizáveis. Para localizar um item bastará escrever. Se você colocar na caixa de pesquisa "Sha-amun-en-su" vão aparecer os arquivos da múmia do museu nacional bem como sua categoria. Se você colocar na caixa de pesquisa "urna marajoara museu nacional" vão aparecer os arquivos. A localização de aruivos é algo bem simples. A categorização é justamente pra ajudar quem quer achar essas imagens numa pesquisa direta pela categoria. É a mesma lógica do Museu de Belas Artes. Se fosse só uma página com 2000 arquivos jogados, ficaria extremamente desorganizado. A forma de organização numa árvore de categorias permite que a pessoa navegue entendendo a lógica organizacional e consiga ir direto ao assunto que quer pesquisar. A categoria do Museu Nacional também é uma ferramenta de estudo e pesquisa e é por isso que o excesso de arquivos naquela categoria acaba complicando o processo. Dornicke (talk) 23:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ana eu entendo seu ponto que a pesquisa do Commons é bem ruim, mas é justamente por isso que temos tanto cuidado com as categorias. Sim, infelizmente é uma realidade aqui que as categorias são criadas preferencialmente em inglês para permitir a organização pela maioria da comunidade. Chico Venancio (talk) 23:33, 17 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Chicocvenancio: @Dornicke: Eu vi isso. Eu notei. No sábado e domingo (ontem) eu praticamente passei o dia inteiro olhando e analisando essas categorias aqui dentro. Eu olhei mais de 500 fotografias por dia, e analisei as categorias que essas fotografias estavam. E eu achei uma tremenda bagunça isso de ter categorias escondidas dentro de outras categorias, dessa forma isso dificulta as pessoas achar as informações que estão procurando. Existe uma maneira mais fácil de organizar as informações dentro do wiki: Ana Gauna (talk) 00:33, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Por exemplo, a estrela do mar, no museu só tem ela morta, e eu pensei que aqui dentro só tinha estrela do mar morta, então eu fui procurar a estrela do mar em vários idiomas, e eu achei estrelas do mar vivas para colocar na categoria starfish, e depois que eu fiz isso apareceu mais pessoas colocando outras estrelas do mar vivas lá dentro da categoria starfish. Ana Gauna (talk) 00:33, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ana, essa maneira "mais fácil" a que se refere já é como fazemos:
  • Categoria:Museu Nacional
    • Categoria:Coleções do Museu Nacional
      • Categoria:Coleção de arqueologia do Museu Nacional
        • Categoria:Coleção de arqueologia brasileira do museu nacional.
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      • Categoria:Coleção de zoologia do Museu Nacional
        • Categoria:Coleção de invertebrados do Museu Nacional
          • Categoria:Coleção de invertebrados marinhos do Museu Nacional
Dornicke (talk) 00:47, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Dornicke: </nowiki> Eu olhei diversas fotografias e categorias, te digo que tem categoria perdida dentro de outra categoria, e na categoria principal não mostra que essa categoria perdida existe dentro de outra categoria. Várias categorias de fotografias estão em inglês, precisa ter um comando de tradução automático para o português, para facilitar a busca de informação feita por brasileiros, feita por português, feita por angolanos, etc. E tem estudantes que fazem pesquisas, estando em português a tradução da busca de palavras, fica mais fácil de alunos, adolescentes e crianças acharem uma fotografia aqui dentro. Tem categorias que tem o nome ciêntifico do item, mas tem que ter o nome genérico/popular do item também para facilitar que adolescentes e crianças achem a informação em fotografias aqui dentro. Eu notei que várias categorias já tem tradução para vários idiomas, mas o português não está incluído nessa tradução. Ana Gauna (talk) 01:26, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ana, esses problemas são reais, mas não é possível resolvê-los sem categorizar os arquivos de forma específica hoje. Há um projeto de termos dados internacionalizados mais detalhados sobre cada imagem aqui para resolver essas questões de maneira mais intuitiva, mas isso é um projeto ainda em desenvolvimento. Chico Venancio (talk) 01:30, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Chicocvenancio: Quem é brasileiro ou português, tem que pensar em categorias em português, sim. Se não notou, já existe várias categorias aqui dentro do Commons para vários itens que já estão traduzidos para diversos idiomas. Falta alguém incluir o idioma português dentro dessas categorias. Várias categorias aqui dentro já tem a tradução automática ativada em vários idiomas. Falta o português. Ana Gauna (talk) 01:49, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ana, é natural, pela própria natureza do projeto, que a maioria dos arquivos não tenha descrição apropriada. É mais um motivo pelo qual a categorização é importante, pois dessa forma os usuários que tenham mais conhecimento sobre o assunto podem ajudar a descrevê-los. Eu sou o responsável por fotografar quase toda a coleção de invertebrados marinhos do Museu Nacional, mas não conheço os nomes científicos da espécie - minha formação é em história de arte e museologia. Eu as deixei na categoria "Invertebrados marinhos do Museu Nacional" e agora já há vários editores com conhecimento em biologia marinha ajudando na classificação. Da mesma forma, estou descrevendo os artigos de artefatos egípcios que outros editores carregaram no projeto, mas não descreveram porque não tinham o conhecimento aprofundado do objeto pra saber se é uma estela, se é um relevo votivo ou se é um fragmento de painel, por eemplo. O projeto é colaborativo, às informações vão sendo adicionadas aos poucos. A categorização ajuda nisso. Foi um editor da Alemanha que nunca esteve no Brasil e não fala português, por exemplo, que me ajudou a categorizar quase todos os vasos gregos do Museu Nacional - e ele pode fazer isso porque, mesmo não sendo brasileiro ou falando português, é um pesquisador de arqueologia mediterrânea e sabia o que estava olhando. O projeto não é exclusivo de brasileiros, não pode ser pensado apenas pra facilitar a vida de quem fala português. O projeto é universal e isso deve ser respeitado. Dornicke (talk) 01:36, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reversão[edit]

Oi Ana! Eu desfiz sua edição aqui, porque Category:Ancient Egyptian sarcophagi in the Museu Nacional é uma subcategoria da categoria do Museu Nacional (e por sua vez subcategoria da Quinta da Boa Vista). Retirei para evitar a redundância, já que a ideia é sempre usar as categorias mais específicas possíveis. ~★ nmaia d 01:05, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@NMaia: Museu da Quinta da Boa Vista = Museu Nacional (Brazil) = [7] Olha as fotografias... Ana Gauna (talk) 02:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@NMaia: Quinta da Boa Vista, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil = Google Maps = Quinta da Boa Vista Ana Gauna (talk) 13:43, 19 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@NMaia: Museu da UFRJ = Museu Nacional (Brazil) = [8] Olha as fotografias... Ana Gauna (talk) 02:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@NMaia: Vi que andou mudando de lugar imagens, e retirando a imagem de dentro da categoria "Museu Nacional, Rio de Janeiro". Eu discordo disso de ficar retirando fotos de dentro da categoria, o melhor é adicionar mais uma categoria na fotografia do que retirar. A busca das fotografias do museu tem que ser facilitada para as pessoas poder encontrar fácil o que procuram e querem ver. Quando um brasileiro vai ali na busca principal em https://commons.wikimedia.org ele vai digitar "Museu Nacional" irá aparecer lá na busca vários Museu Nacional localizados em outras cidades, localizados em outros paises, isso eu á testei dias atrás e notei isso, ali dentro da busca somente quando a pessoa digita "Museu Nacional, Rio de Janeiro" é somente nesse momento que o Museu Nacional da UFRJ aparece ali. Você já fêz esse teste ali dentro do item de digitar a busca? eu já fiz. As pessoas não vão escrever coleção tal, as pessoas vão escrever ali dentro Museu Nacional (porque é isso que eles querem ver), vão escrever múmia (porque é isso que eles querem ver), vão escrever dinossauro (porque é isso que eles querem ver), na sexta-feira passada, no sábado passado, no domingo passado e na segunda-feira, eu estava fazendo esse teste ali dentro com vários itens que eu sei que tem dentro do Museu Nacional, e fiquei observando o que a busca do Commons mostrava como resultado dentro do banco de dados. Quem é cientista vai querer ver o item com o nome ciêntifico, quem não é cientista vai querer ver o item pelo nome genérico dele: múmia, dinossauro, estrela do mar, índio, meteoritos, etc. Testa lá dentro a busca, para você entender o que eu estou falando. E tem pessoas que sim, irão querer ver todas as mais de 4000 fotografias de itens dentro desse Museu Nacional de uma vez só, neste final de semana eu vi aproximadamente umas 4 mil fotografias de itens do Museu Nacional. Nesse incêndio que teve lá se perdeu muita coisa. Muita coisa foi destruída. Agora esses objetos somente existe dentro dessas fotografias digitais, feitas por pessoas que foram lá dentro do Museu Nacional visitar anos atrás. Testa a busca ali com as coisas que você conhece, sem usar essa palavra coleção, sem usar esses nomes ciêntificos do objeto, e analisa o que é que a busca ali dentro está te mostrando. Eu já fiz isso. Ana Gauna (talk) 12:40, 19 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oi, Ana. Essa é a política do projeto, de sempre usar as categorias mais específicas possíveis. Se as pessoas entrarem na categoria Museu Nacional, é só entrar nas subcategorias para encontrar fotos mais específicas. Peço para que entenda, porque isso é padrão no projeto inteiro. ~★ nmaia d 13:29, 19 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@NMaia: O senhor é Brasileiro? O senhor é da Cidade do Rio de Janeiro? O Museu Nacional é um museu de nacionalidade brasileira, esse museu está localizado na Cidade do Rio de Janeiro, no bairro de São Cristóvão, dentro de um parque com zoológico chamado quinta da Boa Vista, e o idioma falado no Brasil, é o português. No Brasil o padrão é o português. O Museu Nacional é do Brasil, ele tem que estar dentro de uma categoria com nome em PORTUGUÊS, para os brasileiros (adultos / adolescentes / crianças) (que não são ciêntistas) , e também para os ciêntistas da UFRJ e da Museologia da UNIRIO poder conseguir encontrar as fotografias aqui dentro. Esse museu pegou fogo, teve incêndio, tem destroços, essas fotografias tem que estar bem organizadas para facilitar a busca para identificar os itens dentro dos destroços do incêndio. Dentro do Facebook da UFRJ e dentro do Facebook da UNIRIO, e em noticiário na televisão, tem informação que esse trabalho de identificação está começando a ser feito lá dentro do Museu Nacional agora. Ana Gauna (talk) 01:38, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ana, por favor, pare. Categorização correta é regra do projeto. Não é opcional. As suas recategorizações estão fora do nosso sistema de categorização. A categoria Antigos Sarcófagos egípcios do Museu Nacional é uma sub-categoria de "Artefatos egípcios do Museu Nacional", que é uma sub-categoria de "Coleções do Museu Nacional" que é uma sub-categoria de "Museu Nacional". Não faz sentido adicionar de novo uma meta-categoria, pois já está categorizada. A dupla categorização dificulta a organização. Se uma pessoa está procurando por sarcófagos egípcios ela será capaz de entender que eles devem estar na categoria de "arqueologia egípcia" e que essa categoria é uma das "coleções do Museu Nacional". Se continuar fazendo da forma como está, querende reescrever sozinha as regras de um projeto usado por milhares de pessoas do mundo inteiro, vai passar o dia inteiro respondendo mensagens na sua página porque está errado como está sendo feito. Custa se informar sobre o processo de categorização? Dornicke (talk) 01:42, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Dornicke: Quem é brasileiro ou português, tem que pensar em categorias em português, sim. Se não notou, já existe várias categorias aqui dentro do Commons para vários itens que já estão traduzidos para diversos idiomas. Falta alguém incluir o idioma português dentro dessas categorias. Várias categorias aqui dentro já tem a tradução automática ativada em vários idiomas. Falta o português. Ana Gauna (talk) 01:52, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ana, os arquivos e categorias são para uso de todos. O fato do museu ser brasileiro não quer dizer que pessoas de outros países não se interessem pelo conteúdo. Como disse, a maioria dos que ajudaram a categorizar esses arquivos, a maioria dos que, até o incêndio, estavam envolvidos na curadoria dessas categorias eram estrangeiros. Não brasileiros. Uma múmia egípcia não é de interesse apenas de um estudante do Rio de Janeiro. Há gente da Alemanha, da Espanha, dos Estados Unidos, da Holanda escrevendo artigos sobre peças do museu nacional. Há mais gente de fora usando esses artigos do que brasileiros. Sim, podemos pensar em formas de melhorar o compreensão dos lusófonos, mas jamais recategorizar fora do sistema apenas para, supostamente, facilitar o acesso desses artigos. Dornicke (talk) 02:07, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Olha a palavra internationalization dentro de = [9] Ana Gauna (talk) 02:13, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No Brasil a categoria mais fácil de ser achada é essa: [10] Ana Gauna (talk) 02:19, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ana, essa é a categoria principal do museu. Aí devem estar arquivos em geral que não se encaixem em nenhuma outra sub-categoria. Ao abrir a categoria que você linkou, você verá que há mais 7 categorias (Archivos do Museu Nacional do Rio de Janeiro‎, Collections of the Museu Nacional‎, Fire damage at the Museu Nacional, Rio de Janeiro‎ , History of the Museu Nacional‎ , Interior of the Museu Nacional, Rio de Janeiro‎, Paço de São Cristóvão‎). Essas sub-categorias servem justamente pra pessoa naõ ter que perder tempo procurando uma imagem no meio de milhares na categoria principal. Assim, se a pessoa estiver pesquisando sobre o periódico do museu, ela vai na categoria "Museu Nacional, Rio de Janeiro" e depois acessa a categoria "Archivos do Museu Nacional". Se a pessoa estiver procurando uma imagem das coleções, ela clica em "Collections of the Museu Nacional". Se quiser uma imagem histórica do museu, ela vai em "History of the Museu Nacional". Se quiser uma imagem do palácio, vai em "Paço de São Cristóvão". É a maneira mais simples de organizar o conteúdo. Muito mais simples do que simplesmente jogar 3000 arquivos numa página e falar pra pessoa "se vira aí pra achar". Dornicke (talk) 02:25, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Starfish[edit]

Hello,

You recently categorized tens of sea star pictures under the category category:Starfish, while they were already well categorized under their scientific name. If you go on the category pahe, you will read "Please categorize images in relevant species, if possible into Category:Asteroidea subcategories, or at least into one of the "Unidentified ..." categories such as Category:Unidentified Asteroidea. Common names groups should be used only when it's impossible to link the file to a biological group (art, symbols...)." Hence, could you please undo your contributions ? Thanks and regards, FredD (talk) 19:33, 20 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@FredD: This Category:Starfish was empty with no content appearing days ago, this week. I put in to visualize the starfish after I discovered that the images of live starfish exist here within the Commons. Before, a few days ago, there was no picture appearing here within Category:Starfish. Ana Gauna (talk) 20:00, 20 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, but some categories on Commons are designed to remain empty, such as this one : the aim is that people who don't know about starfish put their pictures in this category so specialists like me move them to the proper category, depending on the species. You just did the exact contrary... FredD (talk) 03:54, 21 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@FredD: Não senhor. Eu uso o projeto desde 2006. Mas eu uso muito pouco. Desde 2006 eu já olhei dentro das categorias de vários projetos da Wikipedia.org e não é normal uma categoria conter informação vazia de itens, quando existe itens dentro do banco de dados aqui dentro. O normal de uma categoria ser vazia é somente quando não existem itens dentro do banco de dados do projeto. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 06:00, 21 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Translation: No sir. I use the project since 2006. But I use very little. Since 2006 I have already looked into Wikipedia.org's various project categories and it is not normal for a category to contain empty item information when there are items inside the database inside. The normal of a category to be empty is only when there are no items within the project database.̃ Repositório de arquivos Wikimedia Commons (en) English Ana Gauna (talk) 06:00, 21 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Se o senhor não sabe, todos nós estamos dentro de um banco de dados online. Cada um dos projetos da Wikipedia.org é um banco de dados online. Translation: If you do not know, we are all in an online database. Each Wikipedia.org project is an online database. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 06:41, 21 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you just can't read guidelines, I don't know what I can do more... FredD (talk) 09:44, 21 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Por favor, pare a desorganização da enciclopédia![edit]

Ola Ana. As suas ultimas modificações nas categorias não são corretas e desorganizam a enciclopédia. Por exemplo, a categoria Swimming pool (Piscina) (Brazil) não tem nenhuma razão para existir: já há Swimming pools in Brazil e você continua a adicionar Swimming pools (a categoria principal, que tem que ser vazia) a varias imagens. Isso não é o funcionamento de Wikimedia Commons. Entendo os argumentos da acessibilidade para os lusófonos, mas como já outros te disseram, não é possível criar a suas regras pessoais e o nome das categorias esta em inglês. Sobretudo, cada arquivo deve ser categorizado o mais precisamente possível. Então, por favor, pare a desorganização da enciclopédia e escolte os conselhos dos editores experimentados. As suas imagens são interessantes e enriquecem Commons, mas se você continuar fazendo os mesmos erros sem respeitar as regras, poderíamos estar obrigados a bloquear você. Esperou que você entende o mensagem malgrado o meu português limitado. Skimel (talk) 21:33, 24 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Skimel: Tem erro de links em algumas categorias aqui dentro do Commons. Tem categorias que não está aparecendo aquela faixa azul de categoria em cima e embaixo da página da categoria. Essa página ficou Swimming pool (Piscina) (Brazil) porque a outra não apareceu dentro da barra de busca de categorias. E essa categoria Swimming pools in Brazil talvez esteja com algum problema de link, dá uma verificada, porque ela não apareceu dentro daquela barra de busca de categorias que existe em baixo das fotos, no dia que usei isso, dias atrás. Ana Gauna (talk) 00:42, 25 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ola, obrigado pela sua resposta. A categorização pode ser difícil as vezes quando não aparece a categoria na barra de busca (eu fiz também muitos erros quando nos meus inícios em Commons). A solução é explorar as categorias e subcategorias para descobrir qual é a melhor. Por exemplo, a Vila Olímpia é em São Paulo, sim, mas a categoria "São Paulo" é muito geral: então buscamos algo mais preciso. Desde São Paulo há Geography of São Paulo (city), dentro da qual há Subdivisions of São Paulo (city), e aqui há Districts of São Paulo (city). A Vila Olímpia faz parte do distrito Itaim Bibi e tem que ser categorizada somente aqui. A lógica é a mesma com as piscinas ;). E se você não encontra a boa categoria, sempre pode pedir ajuda! Skimel (talk) 06:03, 25 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Skimel: Eu notei uma coisa ontem de madrugada. Quando no nome da categoria tem , = virgula essa categoria ela não aparece automático na barra de busca. Teste isso. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 13:03, 25 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Skimel: Isso tem problema no nome dessa categoria. Quem é brasileiro e já foi visitar o bairro Itaimbibi sabe que fica visinho ao bairro Vila Olimpia, e sabe que a Cidade é São Paulo. Já quem nunca foi visitar a cidade de São Paulo e nunca foi visitar o bairro Itaimbibi nem nunca foi visitar o bairro Vila Olimpia, com esse nome genérico de categoria não saberá que esses dois bairros ficam dentro da Cidade de São Paulo. Isso só sabe quem olha o mapa da Cidade de São Paulo ou quem já foi lá fazer uma visita. ̴Ana Gauna (talk) 13:24, 25 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Para ter mais informações sobre o que é na categoria (por exemplo, o que é o bairro Itaimbibi), temos um infobox com o elemento em Wikidata. Neste infobox esta indicado "district of São Paulo" e também há uma mapa. Então todos podemos saber onde fica este bairro ;) Isso é a forma estandardizada em Wikimedia Commons, por favor não modifica ela! Skimel (talk) 13:32, 25 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Skimel: O sistema online de envio de arquivos do Commons sofreu uma atualização online. Agora no momento do envio de arquivos, o sistema online quer que a pessoa identifique o nome de cada arquivos de fotografias, o sistema online não aceita nome de foto duplicado, o sistema online do Commons quer que a pessoa preencha todos os campos de descrição das fotografias, e o sistema online quer que a pessoa preencha o campo de categoria com o nome da categoria em todas as fotos, somente depois que todos os campos estão preenchidos, e o sistema online fêz uma aprovação online em todos os arquivos é que esses arquivos são enviados pelas pessoas e essas fotografias entram dentro do Commons. Essa categoria Swimming pools in Brazil ela não apareceu dentro do campo de busca automático de categorias que o sistema online mostra antes de ser enviado as fotografias. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 21:24, 25 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sim, o sistema é um pouco complicado e não é perfeito. Por isso, é melhor verificar qual categorias existem antes de transferir arquivos no Commons, sobretudo se você quer transferir muitas imagens ao mesmo tempo. Skimel (talk) 21:37, 25 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Skimel: Nem tudo está aparecendo automático lá dentro daquela barra de categorias automática, quando a pessoa quer ver algo lá dentro. Ana Gauna (talk) 00:05, 26 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sim, e por isso precisa buscar na barra de pesquisa de Commons (em cima, a direita), e depois explorar as diversas categorias, antes de transferir arquivos. A barra de categorias automáticas é muito útil, mas não faz tudo ;) Bom dia! Skimel (talk) 06:24, 26 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Translationː You have links error in some categories here within the Commons. There are categories that are not appearing that blue category strip at the top and bottom of the category page. This page was Swimming pool (Brazil) because the other did not appear within the category search bar. And this category Swimming pools in Brazil may have a link problem, check it out because it did not show up inside that category search bar that exists underneath the photos on the day I used it, days ago. ̴̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 01:19, 27 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I noticed something late at night. When in the name of the category has, = comma this category does not appear automatic in the search bar. Test this. 

 Ana Gauna (talk) 01:05, 27 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This has problem with the name of this category. Who is Brazilian and has already been to visit the district Itaimbibi knows that it is close to the neighborhood Vila Olimpia, and knows that the City is São Paulo. For those who have never visited the city of São Paulo and never visited the Itaimbibi district nor ever visited the neighborhood Vila Olimpia, with this generic category name will not know that these two neighborhoods are inside the City of São Paulo. This only knows who looks at the map of the City of São Paulo or who has been there to pay a visit. 

 Ana Gauna (talk) 01:05, 27 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The online file upload system from the Commons has been updated online. Now when uploading files, the online system wants the person to identify the name of each photo file, the online system does not accept a duplicate photo name, the Commons online system wants the person to fill in all the description fields of the files. photographs, and the online system wants the person to fill in the category field with the category name in all photos, only after all the fields are filled, and the online system has made an online approval on all the files is that these files are sent by the people and these photos come within the Commons. This category does not appear to be in the automatic category search box that the online system displays before the photos are submitted. 

 Ana Gauna (talk) 01:05, 27 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not everything is automatically popping up inside that automatic category bar when the person wants to see something in there. Ana Gauna (talk) 01:05, 27 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Skimel: O senhor não está entendendo direito o que eu escrevi em português.

Tem arquivos de categorias, tem arquivos de fotos, que estão com o link quebrado. Vários arquivos na busca de categorias que fica em baixo da fotografia, não aparece tudo o que a pessoa digita procurando. E se o item de categoria contém a virgula, ele não aparece automático lá dentro dessa busca de categorias que fica em baixo de fotografias. O mesmo problema parecido está acontecendo com aquela barra azul de categorias que existe em cima da categoria, e existe em baixo da categoria, lá também nem tudo está aparecendo quando a pessoa digita a procura de algo. E ali também se existe uma categoria com virgula, essa categoria não aparece automático lá dentro da busca de categorias da faixa azul de categorias. E existe um outro problema tem categorias com problema de link sem essa faixa azul aparecendo em cima e embaixo. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 00:03, 27 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Skimel: You are not quite understanding what I wrote in Portuguese.

It has category files, has photo files, which have the broken link. Several files in the category search under the photograph do not appear everything the person types looking for. And if the category item contains the comma, it does not automatically appear in that category search under the photos. The same similar problem is happening with that blue bar of categories that exists above the category, and exists below the category, there also not everything is appearing when the person types in the search of something. And there also if there is a category with comma, this category does not appear automatic within the search categories of the blue range of categories. And there is another problem that has categories with link problem without this blue band appearing at the top and bottom. Ana Gauna (talk) 00:03, 27 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Skimel: Vous ne comprenez pas très bien ce que j'ai écrit en portugais.

Il a des fichiers de catégorie, a des fichiers photo, qui ont le lien cassé. Plusieurs fichiers de la catégorie recherche sous la photo n'apparaissent pas tout ce que la personne recherche. Et si l'élément de catégorie contient la virgule, il n'apparaît pas automatiquement dans cette catégorie de recherche sous les photos. Le même problème similaire se produit avec la barre bleue des catégories qui existe au-dessus de la catégorie, et existe en dessous de la catégorie, là aussi tout n’apparaît pas lorsque la personne tape à la recherche de quelque chose. Et là aussi, s'il y a une catégorie avec une virgule, cette catégorie n'apparaît pas automatiquement dans les catégories de recherche de la plage bleue des catégories. Et il y a un autre problème qui a des catégories avec un problème de lien sans que cette bande bleue apparaisse en haut et en bas. Ana Gauna (talk) 00:03, 27 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi, Do not editwar please, i.e. [11]. Thanks, Yann (talk) 04:47, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

̺@Yann: Quando eu fiz o upload das imagens dias atrás, foi para elas ficar dentro da categoria Starfish. Quem retirou é que está errado. Translationː When I uploaded the images days ago, it was for them to stay in the Starfish category. Whoever has withdrawn is wrong. Ana Gauna (talk) 05:45, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Yann: O sistema online de envio de arquivos sofreu uma atualização, agora ele exige que a pessoa coloque os arquivos dentro de uma categoria, e eu escolhi a categoria starfish dias atrás para colocar as imagens que eu fiz o upload. The online file submission system has undergone an update, it now requires the person to place the files within a category, and I chose the starfish category days ago to place the images I uploaded. Who is doing this editwar = FredD Ana Gauna (talk) 05:59, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Yann: Who is doing this editwar = FredD. On September 19 I put several starfish into the starfish category because I wanted to see the living starfish. And this FredD just to implicate me, he took everything out of the starfish category on September 21. Ana Gauna (talk) 06:45, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello @Amgauna: , several users have repeatedly told you to respect the rules of categorization on Commons. The category Starfish MUST stay EMPTY, each photograph of starfish must be put in the specific category. You can't just choose to do what you want. FredD is right, please stop reverting his edits. We are open to dialogue, but you must follow the rules. Skimel (talk) 07:32, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ː@Skimel: No. This starfish category is inside the wikidata and configured in dozens of languages in there, several months, or years. Who is wrong is this FredD. This starfish category has to have yes images, because it has indexing with the wikidata. Who put the first images inside the commons within the starfish category was me, when I upoaded photos, days ago. Whoever is reversing what I do is him, FredD. Who is wrong is FredD. Ana Gauna (talk) 07:47, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ː@Skimel: That category starfish is the category of this stafish of the main page of Commons [12] Ana Gauna (talk) 07:55, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Por favor, toma o tempo para compreender as regras antes de fazer modificações. A pagina Starfish é uma pagina de apresentação geral das estrelas do mar (e você pode ver que o titulo esta traduzido em vários idiomas, incluído o português). Mas isso não quer dizer que todas as imagens nessa pagina tenham de ser categorizadas em Starfish ! Então é as suas modificações ("Who put the first images inside the commons within the starfish category was me, when I upoaded photos, days ago") que foram erradas. O @FredD: é um usuário experimentado com um grande conhecimento das categorias, ele sabe o que esta fazendo. Skimel (talk) 12:07, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Yann: e @Skimel: O senhor está enganado. Eu sou analista de sistemas senior. Eu estou analisando essa quebra de links que existe entre as categorias (poque várias categorias não estão funcionando automático dentro da barra de busca) e a busca disso entre o wikidata já tem várias semanas. Essa página starfish e a categoria starfish estão configurados dentro do wikidata em no item Q25349 (identificador wikidata) [13], nele a configuração está feita assim: então essa página starfish ela é uma página principal e essa categoria starfish ela é uma categoria principal, porque existe índice identificador de propriedade ativo e funcionando dentro do link de pagina, e isso já teve tradução feita que está ativado dentro do projeto em diversos idiomas. Translation: You are mistaken. I am a senior systems analyst. I am analyzing this link breakage that exists between categories (because several categories are not working automatically within the search bar) and the search of this between wikidata already has several weeks. This starfish page and the starfish category are configured inside the wikidata in the item Q25349 (wikidata identifier) [14], in it the configuration is made like this: then this starfish page is a main page and this starfish category it is a main category because there is property identifier active and functioning within the page link, and this translation has already been activated within the project in several languages. Ana Gauna (talk) 16:08, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

First point. Just because the category Starfish is referenced on Wikidata (as are lots of Commons categories) doesn't mean that the actual category on Commons should be overloaded with hundreds of pictures. Besides, the policy about fauna and flora on Commons is to use the scientific names. In this case, we should use Asteroidea. If you do not know which particular starfish your picture represents, put it in the category Unidentified Asteroidea.
Second point. I don't understand what you mean by "link breakage". The search bar is managed by the tool "Hot Cat". If some of the categories don't show up in the search bar, it may be because of your operating system, your connection, or simply because it's case-sensitive. Take a look here, you will find a way to customize this tool : Help:Gadget-HotCat. Skimel (talk) 16:42, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Yann: e @Skimel: Significa apenas que algumas coisas dentro do Commons irão parar de funcionar de forma correta dentro do banco de dados do ativo no projeto. O wikidata é banco de dados, ele cria a comunicação entre as páginas e as categorias, e entre tudo o que existe ativado e funcionando dentro do projeto. Translation: It just means that some things within Commons will stop working properly within the asset database in the project. The wikidata is database, it creates the communication between the pages and the categories, and between everything that exists activated and working within the project. Ana Gauna (talk) 16:56, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Yann: e @Skimel: Eu e várias pessoas escolheram a categoria starfish' para fazer o upload de fotografias. Quem está retirando as imagens de dentro da categoria starfish é que está errado. Dentro do wikidata essa é uma categoria correta, isso está configurado. Essa categoria Unidentified Asteroidea é que está errada (não faz parte do wikidata). Isso de não seguir a configuração padrão que está ativado dentro do wikidata, que está ativado dentro dos demais itens do projeto com tradução feita e ativada em diversos idiomas, é o que está causando problemas de link quebrado na ferramenta de busca do Commons. O que existe dentro do wikidata é o que está sendo utilizado dentro da Wikipedia com tradução em vários idiomas. Translation: I and several people have chosen the 'starfish category' to upload photos. Whoever is taking pictures out of the starfish category is wrong. Inside the wikidata this is a correct category, this is configured. This category Unidentified Asteroidea is wrong (not part of wikidata). This does not follow the default setting that is enabled inside wikidata, which is activated within the other project items with translation done and activated in several languages, is what is causing broken link problems in the Commons search tool. What exists inside the wikidata is what is being used within Wikipedia with translation in several languages. Ana Gauna (talk) 17:29, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just because a category doesn't have a wikidata item doesn't mean it should not be used! Skimel (talk) 18:14, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Yann: e @Skimel: Isso de ficar retirando fotografias de animais marinhos, etc de dentro da categoria padrão de download (configurado no wikidata) deve estar causando problemas dentro do projeto Wikiespécies, esse problema pode estar existindo lá. [15] e [16] e [17] Translation: That of taking photographs of marine animals etc from within the standard download category (configured in wikidata) should be causing problems within the Wikiespecies project, this problem may be existing there. [18] and [19] and [20] Ana Gauna (talk) 22:37, 28 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikispecies Main Page https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page Ana Gauna (talk) 00:15, 29 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikispecies Image Guide https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Image_Guidelines Ana Gauna (talk) 00:15, 29 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikispecies Wikiversite https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikispecies Ana Gauna (talk) 00:15, 29 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikispecies Wikipedia (english) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikispecies Ana Gauna (talk) 00:15, 29 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikispecies Template https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikispecies Ana Gauna (talk) 00:15, 29 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Wikipedia article w:Starfish is linked to the Wikispecies page s:Asteroidea, which is also linked to the commons Category Asteroidea. All of this is linked on Wikidata : d:Q25349. So the category starfish should not be used. Furthermore, you can't put all the images under the "standard category", but you need to put them in the most precise one. For instance, your photo File:DSC00066 - estrela do mar - Naufrágio e recifes de coral no Nilo.jpg has been correctly categorized under Oreaster reticulatus - which has its own wikidata page : d:Q822952. This photo (and all the other photographs of identified starfishes) should NOT bet put within the Starfish category. FredD was right when he removed it. Skimel (talk) 09:22, 29 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Yann: e @Skimel: Eu já atualizei o banco de dados do Wikidata com as informações de tradução relativo ao português do Brasil. Eu e várias outras pessoas escolheu a categoria starfish dias atrás para fazer o download de fotografias, é lá que as fotografias que eu fiz upload tem que ficar também. Quem retirou está errado, porque lá é uma categoria correta, está configurada dentro do Wikidata, e existe a página starfish no Commons. Quem retirou diversas fotografias indevidamente de dentro dessa categoria starfish é quem está errado. Translationː I have already updated the Wikidata database with the translation information related to Brazilian Portuguese. ̴I and several other people chose the category starfish days ago to download photos, that's where the photographs I uploaded have to stay too. Whoever removed it is wrong, because there is a correct category, it is configured within Wikidata, and there is the starfish page in Commons. Whoever has taken several unduly photographs from within this starfish category is the one who is wrong. Who is doing this editwar = FredD and you Skimel. Ana Gauna (talk) 14:52, 29 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

̺@DarwIn: Quem está fazendo editwar agora é Skimel está entrando tudo dentro do meu email. Translationː Who is doing editwar now is Skimel is getting everything inside my email. Ana Gauna (talk) 21:59, 29 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File tagging File:Mapa-Metropolitana-do-Rio-de-Janeiro-Brazil.jpg[edit]

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@Ronhjones: This map is to be used within the wikidata project in reference items relative to this map image. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 17:31, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ronhjones: Authorː Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística - IBGE = http://dados.gov.br/organization/0a2ede4a-4c54-4303-af0a-6d163e242c15?res_format=JSON = Licença Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported. Ana Gauna (talk) 01:52, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Amgauna: Hello, sorry to come here again but the information is not completely true. The map has been "created from the cartographic base of the IBGE ("elaborado a partir de base cartografica do IBGE"). Therefore, the true author is Baixarmapas.com ... and as such, the map cannot be imported to Commons because the website says "Copyright © 2016. All Rights Reserved". However, since the design is very simple, it is easy to make a similar map from scratch. Skimel (talk) 09:47, 7 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Here is an example I made : File:Região Metropolitana do Rio de Janeiro a partir de 2014 com nomes.svg. (with the 2014 update of the city limits) What do you think ? Skimel (talk) 10:23, 7 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Magnus Manske: and ̺@Jcb: Porque o senhor apagou as imagens dos mapas? Eu já tinha feito a correção de informações no link, e eu já tinha feito a tradução da descrição do português para inglês. Translate: Why did you erase the maps? I had already corrected information on the link, and I had already done the translation of the description from Portuguese to English. Ana Gauna (talk) 00:32, 14 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@Ronhjones: This map is to be used within the wikidata project in reference items relative to this map image. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 17:31, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ronhjones: IGC Comunicação Visual = IGC Ministério da Educação do Brasil = http://portal.mec.gov.br/igc/192-secretarias-112877938/seesp-esducacao-especial-2091755988 = Site do Governo do Brasil = Licença Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported. Ana Gauna (talk) 02:16, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@Ronhjones: This map is to be used within the wikidata project in reference items relative to this map image. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 17:31, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ronhjones: Origemː Governo do Estado de São Paulo (Brasil) = http://www.saopaulo.sp.gov.br/ = The Government of Brazil sites authorize the free download of maps of Brazil / Autorː Governo do Estado de São Paulo (Brasil) = http://www.saopaulo.sp.gov.br/ Ana Gauna (talk) 03:28, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Magnus Manske: and ̺@Jcb: Porque o senhor apagou as imagens dos mapas? Eu já tinha feito a correção de informações no link, e eu já tinha feito a tradução da descrição do português para inglês. Translate: Why did you erase the maps? I had already corrected information on the link, and I had already done the translation of the description from Portuguese to English. Ana Gauna (talk) 00:30, 14 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File tagging File:Mapa1-Estado-de-São-Paulo-Brasil.gif[edit]

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@Ronhjones: This map is to be used within the wikidata project in reference items relative to this map image. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 17:31, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ronhjones: Origem = Secretaria de Agricultura e Abastecimento (Brasil) / Instituto de Economia Agrícola (IEA) Brasil / Escritório de Desenvolvimento Rural (EDR) Brasil = http://www.iea.sp.gov.br/out/mapa.html = The Government of Brazil sites authorize the free download of maps of Brazil / Autor = Secretaria de Agricultura e Abastecimento (Brasil) / Instituto de Economia Agrícola (IEA) Brasil / Escritório de Desenvolvimento Rural (EDR) Brasil = http://www.iea.sp.gov.br/out/mapa.html / Permissão = Secretaria de Agricultura e Abastecimento / Instituto de Economia Agrícola (IEA) / Escritório de Desenvolvimento Rural (EDR) = http://www.iea.sp.gov.br/out/mapa.html = The Government of Brazil sites authorize the free download of maps of Brazil Ana Gauna (talk) 04:23, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Magnus Manske: and ̺@Jcb: Porque o senhor apagou as imagens dos mapas? Eu já tinha feito a correção de informações no link, e eu já tinha feito a tradução da descrição do português para inglês. Translate: Why did you erase the maps? I had already corrected information on the link, and I had already done the translation of the description from Portuguese to English. Ana Gauna (talk) 00:29, 14 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@Ronhjones: Origem = Governo do Estado do Rio de Janeiro (Brasil) = http://www.rj.gov.br/web/sea/exibeconteudo?article-id=225576 = licença Creative Commons Atribuio 2.0 / Autor = Governo do Estado do Rio de Janeiro (Brasil) Ana Gauna (talk) 02:30, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Magnus Manske: and ̺@Jcb: Porque o senhor apagou as imagens dos mapas? Eu já tinha feito a correção de informações no link, e eu já tinha feito a tradução da descrição do português para inglês. Translate: Why did you erase the maps? I had already corrected information on the link, and I had already done the translation of the description from Portuguese to English. Ana Gauna (talk) 00:28, 14 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@Ronhjones: This map is to be used within the wikidata project in reference items relative to this map image. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 17:31, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ronhjones: The site do Governo do Rio de Janeiro (Brazil) = http://www.rj.gov.br/web/sea/exibeconteudo?article-id=225576 = FAPERJ = licença Creative Commons Atribuio 2.0 / Origem = The site do Governo do Rio de Janeiro (Brazil) = http://www.rj.gov.br/web/sea/exibeconteudo?article-id=225576 = FAPERJ = licença Creative Commons Atribuio 2.0 / Autor = FAPERJ-FUNDAÇÃO CARLOS CHAGAS FILHO DE AMPARO À PESQUISA DO ESTADO DO RIO DE JANEIRO (Brazil). ̴Ana Gauna (talk) 01:42, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Magnus Manske: and ̺@Jcb: Porque o senhor apagou as imagens dos mapas? Eu já tinha feito a correção de informações no link, e eu já tinha feito a tradução da descrição do português para inglês. Translate: Why did you erase the maps? I had already corrected information on the link, and I had already done the translation of the description from Portuguese to English. Ana Gauna (talk) 00:28, 14 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@Ronhjones: This map is to be used within the wikidata project in reference items relative to this map image. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 17:31, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is nothing in the source(s) to indicate these maps are free. Under the Berne Convention the default license will be "All Rights Reserved", which is not acceptable. Ronhjones  (Talk) 17:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ronhjones: These images are from geography study books used in Brazil by students. I do not understand those licenses here from the Commons. If I chose the wrong license, how can I exchange the wrong license with the right license? I looked at the licenses but I do not know which license is right to use. Ana Gauna (talk) 17:52, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Every image here can be used commercially free of charge. The book's license is not likely to allow the use here. The publisher of the book will own the copyright - you should contact the publisher. Ronhjones  (Talk) 18:09, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ronhjones: Creative Commons public domain tools = CC0 (occasionally written as CC Zero) is a public domain dedication that allows copyright holders to place works in the public domain to the extent legally possible, worldwide. In these files can this license be used? public domain? It did not appear visible to me when I uploaded the files. These map images are on the internet because students and teachers in Brazil are studying this subject online. Ana Gauna (talk) 18:14, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

CC-zero is OK, but we need to verify that the maps have been released as CC-zero. If there was a CC-zero at the source, then we could use them, but I doubt if they are CC-zero - only the book (or the publisher) will have the copyright details. We cannot use the images unless we can verify that they have been released as a free license. Ronhjones  (Talk) 18:20, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Please note http://www.baixarmapas.com.br/ - bottom of page Copyright © 2016. All Rights Reserved. - thus not suitable for commons. Ronhjones  (Talk) 18:24, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ronhjones: Who provides the maps for the use of schools in Brazil is the government of Brazil. L̺ook = https://mapas.ibge.gov.br/escolares Ana Gauna (talk) 18:27, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I suspect they are using the maps from http://www.baixarmapas.com.br/ under license. Anyway, http://www.brasil.gov.br/participacao-social#acesso-informacao says "Todo o conteúdo deste site está publicado sob a licença creative commons cc by nd 3.0 brasil" - CC-BY-ND is still not acceptable. Ronhjones  (Talk) 18:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ronhjones: I liked this = http://www.baixarmapas.com.br/mapa/regiao-metropolitana/ These maps who provides for use in schools is the government of Brazil itself. At the commons I do not know which license is right to use with these maps. In the wikidata you need these maps in there. Ana Gauna (talk) 18:37, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

baixarmapas.com.br maps are "All Rights Reserved", not suitable Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:23, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ronhjones: I liked this about São Paulo = http://www.mapas-sp.com/bairros.htm Can this map be used here in Commons and wikidata?Ana Gauna (talk) 19:01, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bottom of page "Copyright © Guia Geográfico". If it does not specify a license, then that means "All Rights Reserved", and not suitable. There are very few free maps available. Most people tend to use www.openstreetmap.org. Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:20, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ːː@Ronhjones: I do not understand these Creative Commons licenses. I've read the site regarding these licenses, but almost always someone comes along saying that I chose the wrong license in some image. In the Wikidata you need images of maps of the Cities / Municipalities of Brazil, maps of the States of Brazil, maps of the districts of Brazil, to be able to make reference to the existing items inside the bank and data of the wikidata. I do not know which license is right. Good evening. Ana Gauna (talk) 20:24, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You have to use the license that the map web site specifies. You cannot pick your own, when using someone else's work. Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:30, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ːː@Ronhjones: These maps are from Brazil, for use by students and teachers. In Brazil it is not customary within the sites to use Creative Commons licenses. Ana Gauna (talk) 21:32, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ːːAinda não existe lei em vigor no Brasil quanto ao uso dessas licenças Creative Commons. Existe um anteprojeto-de-lei = um estudo de lei em andamento, mas é somente um estudo não é uma lei em vigor no Brasil. http://www.ebc.com.br/tecnologia/2012/12/professor-de-direito-analisa-creative-commons-no-sistema-autoral-brasileiro Translateː' There is still no law in force in Brazil regarding the use of these Creative Commons licenses. There is a draft-law = a law study in progress, but it is only a study is not a law in force in Brazil. Ana Gauna (talk) 22:06, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Commons needs an image to have a free license that is valid in the US (where the main servers are) and in the country of origin. I suggest you ask at COM:VPC, to get a wider opinion. Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:32, 2 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Remember that Brazil is part of the "Berne Convention" (File:Berne Convention signatories.svg), that means that all "work" is fully copyrighted at the time of creation, by the creator. Such work can never be used on commons unless there is an explicit release of copyright. Ronhjones  (Talk) 01:14, 3 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So I think it better the Wikimedia Foundation to directly request these forographs of the Government of Brazil. The Brazilian government provides these map images. On the internet these images are free for use by Brazilians (students and teachers) in schools in Brazil. Good evening. Ana Gauna (talk) 01:59, 3 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
:ːː@Ronhjones: So I think it better the Licence Creative Commons Open Data for the Maps of the Government of Brazil = https://creativecommons.org/about/program-areas/open-data/ ̴̴and http://dados.gov.br/dataset/cq-pesquisa-trimestral-do-couro-couro Ana Gauna (talk) 23:33, 4 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As I said - you cannot pick the license. You must use the license on the web site, that has the image you want to use. Thus if the image is on http://www.baixarmapas.com.br/mapa/regiao-metropolitana/, then at the bottom right of that page is "Copyright © 2016. All Rights Reserved". That is the license - "All Rights Reserved" - and not suitable for upload here. In general almost every image on the internet is not suitable for uploading to commons. As I said above, nearly all the modern maps that you will find in commons will usually derive from openstreetmap.com - one of the very few places to get a free map. The only other options are to find old (100 years old) maps. Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:44, 4 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ronhjones: At the bottom of the website of the government of Brazil data.gov.brhttp://dados.gov.br/dataset/cq-pesquisa-trimestral-do-couro-couro says that all content of the site uses the license Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 00:17, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
OK, that will apply to everything in http://dados.gov.br. You will need to find a map on that part of the web site, but that will not apply to all gov.br web sites - https://mapas.ibge.gov.br/escolares has a link (top of page - "access and information") links to http://www.brasil.gov.br/participacao-social#acesso-informacao, which has the unacceptable CC-BY-ND license. Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:41, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ronhjones: Under the site data.gov.br that speaks of the IBGE says that the license of the site is the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License.http://dados.gov.br/organization/0a2ede4a-4c54-4303-af0a-6d163e242c15?res_format=JSON Ana Gauna (talk) 01:12, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ana Gauna (talk) 01:12, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It does not matter if it mentions another part of the site. The only workable system is
  1. Find the image page
  2. From that page (unless there is a license there), use the links from that page to find the license - the link might be called "information, "legal", copyright", etc. - all sites vary. It is not unusual for different parts of Government sites to use difference licenses (my own Government is just as bad, with parts being Open Government, and parts being Crown Copyright). One must find the license for the appropriate part of the site. If there was a link from https://mapas.ibge.gov.br/escolares directly to http://dados.gov.br/organization/0a2ede4a-4c54-4303-af0a-6d163e242c15?res_format=JSON, then that would be a different outcome. I do suspect that www.baixarmapas.com.br has licensed the maps to the Brazilian Government and that is why https://ibge.gov.br/ links to a CC-BY-ND license page. It might be easier to ask the Brazilian Government direct - I did find ibge@ibge.gov.br on a IBGE web page. I aslo downloaded a map at https://portaldemapas.ibge.gov.br/portal.php#mapa220345 - which has a text box containing "Direitos de Reprodução Reservados (C)IBGE" Ronhjones  (Talk) 02:29, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Mapa2-bairros-Rio-de-Janeiro-Brazil.jpg / Origem = Governo do Estado do Rio de Janeiro (Brasil) = http://www.rj.gov.br/web/guest = The Government of Brazil sites authorize the free download of maps of Brazil / Autor = Governo do Estado do Rio de Janeiro (Brasil) = http://www.rj.gov.br/web/guest / Permissão = Governo do Estado do Rio de Janeiro (Brasil) = http://www.rj.gov.br/web/guest = The Government of Brazil sites authorize the free download of maps of Brazil Ana Gauna (talk) 04:08, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well that is one map sorted out. It's not unusual for different regions to have different licenses - you would find the same in the US - - There are about 4 states that have free content on their web sites, the other 46 are not free content. Ronhjones  (Talk) 15:17, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ronhjones: Are the map licenses right now? I think I now understand how to view these license images. Thank you. Ana Gauna (talk) 18:39, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think you are getting there. You need to add the web page that the map has been taken from, so that editors can link the map to the permission. Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:40, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just a thought - have you checked out all the Brazilian maps already here - there are hundreds of them - Category:Maps of Brazil Ronhjones  (Talk) 14:52, 6 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ronhjones: I already looked. The other maps within the category contain other information. The maps I downloaded included other information, which I downloaded is detailed identifying each region of Brazil, identifying each State of Brazil, and identifying the neighborhoods within the Cities. Good evening. Ana Gauna (talk) 17:43, 6 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ronhjones: Those maps within the category maps of Brazil have several very old maps from many years ago (10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago). These very old maps should be organized into a category of ancient maps of Brazil. And those categories that contain old maps from decades ago should be identified with (old maps). Within the categories has maps of several decades: Brazil reign, Brazil republic, Brazil dictatorship, Brazil Democracy. Ana Gauna (talk) 19:10, 6 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ː(portuguese) Aqueles mapas lá dentro da categoria mapas do brasil, tem vários mapas muito velhos de muitos anos atrás (10 anos atrás, 20 anos atrás, 30 anos atrás). Esses mapas muito velhos deveriam estar organizados em uma categoria de mapas antigos do Brasil. E essas categorias que contém mapas antigos de décadas atrás deveriam estar identificadas com (mapas velhos). Alí dentro das categorias tem mapas de várias décadas: Brasil reinado, Brasil república, Brasil ditadura, Brasil Democracia. Ana Gauna (talk) 19:10, 6 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Magnus Manske: and ̺@Jcb: Porque o senhor apagou as imagens dos mapas? Eu já tinha feito a correção de informações no link, e eu já tinha feito a tradução da descrição do português para inglês. Translate: Why did you erase the maps? I had already corrected information on the link, and I had already done the translation of the description from Portuguese to English. Ana Gauna (talk) 00:26, 14 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@Ronhjones: Origem = Prefeitura do Município de São Paulo-PMSP / Secretaria Municipal do Planejamento-SEMPLA / Grupo Executivo de Gestão de Acordos de Cooperação Técnica, Econômica e Gerencial = http://www.prodam.sp.gov.br/sempla/sampatoronto.htm = The Government of Brazil sites authorize the free download of maps of Brazil / Autor = Prefeitura do Município de São Paulo-PMSP / Secretaria Municipal do Planejamento-SEMPLA / Permissão = Prefeitura do Município de São Paulo-PMSP / Secretaria Municipal do Planejamento-SEMPLA = http://www.prodam.sp.gov.br/sempla/sampatoronto.htm = The Government of Brazil sites authorize the free download of maps of Brazil Ana Gauna (talk) 03:55, 5 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Magnus Manske: and ̺@Jcb: Porque o senhor apagou as imagens dos mapas? Eu já tinha feito a correção de informações no link, e eu já tinha feito a tradução da descrição do português para inglês. Translate: Why did you erase the maps? I had already corrected information on the link, and I had already done the translation of the description from Portuguese to English. Ana Gauna (talk) 00:25, 14 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi Amgauna, it seems the above listed images were shot from screen/TV, right? That is not o.k., because the content of a movie (or what is presented on TV) belongs to someone else. So, even when taking a photo from it, you do not earn own copyright and therefore cannot release it under a free license. --Túrelio (talk) 07:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Túrelio: and @Explicit: Meu idioma é o português do Brasil, eu sou do Rio de Janeiro, e o senhor fêz a exclusão indevida de imagens. Translationː My language is Brazilian Portuguese, I am from Rio de Janeiro, and you have done the undue exclusion of images. Ana Gauna (talk) 12:32, 10 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@Paladinum2: Discordo do senhor. No Brasil tem em vigor a legislação da transparência de informação em todos os sites do Governo do Brasil, por essa lei em vigor todo o conteúdo divulgado dentro do site é informação de domínio público na internet. E dias atrás eu olhei diversos sites do Governo do Rio de Janeiro, e olhei diversos sites da Prefeitura do Rio de Janeiro, e o comum é usar a Licença Creative Commons 2.5 que é o que está sendo utilizado na imagem. Translate: I disagree with you. In Brazil, the information transparency legislation in force in all Brazilian Government websites is in force, because this law in force, all the content published within the site is public domain information on the Internet. And days ago I looked at several sites of the Government of Rio de Janeiro, and I looked at several sites of the City of Rio de Janeiro, and the common use is the Creative Commons License 2.5 which is what is being used in the image. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 11:10, 31 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ːI also saw some days ago that there are some sites of the Government of Brazil using this Creative Commons license CC BY 3.0 br https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/br/deed.en Ana Gauna (talk) 11:58, 31 October 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Legislation Brazil Transparente / Law of access to informationː

@Ronhjones: Good night. I would like to ask for your opinion. Days ago you explained to me the Creative Commons licenses, how to use the images. I think I understood your explanation days ago. Could you analyze this image? I think I put the information all right in the picture. ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 21:19, 2 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your problem is that the page says quite clearly "© 2011 City of Rio de Janeiro", and there is no link on that page to a suitable license statement. It's not unusual for local government to have a completely different web policy to a national one. Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:26, 2 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In Brazil it has the legislation of transparency of information, in which all content existing in sites of the Government of Brazil is information of public use. Lookː http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0102-311X2013000400002&script=sci_arttext&tlng=en and by the Brazilian legislation people can use the image of the Government websites, but have to inform the origin of the photograph, this I informed.̴̴ Ana Gauna (talk) 23:07, 2 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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ː̺@Leoboudv: Eu tenho essa fotografia já tem muitos anos. Eu conheci o senhor J. B. Tanko (cineasta) e o senhor Alexander Tanko (filho dele) pessoalmente, eu trabalhei na empresa deles na década de 80, e eles já faleceram. Translation: I have this picture already many years. I met Mr. J. B. Tanko (filmmaker) and Mr. Alexander Tanko (his son) personally, I worked on their company in the 80's, and they passed away. Ana Gauna (talk) 13:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@Érico: and @Paladinum2: Pela legislação de direito autoral do Brasil, a pessoa que quer usar a imagem tem que mencionar a fonte de origem da imagem, isso foi informado, eu informei quem é o dono da imagem no caso o próprio Cláudio Castro, essa é a foto oficial dele de divulgação como politico, e pela legislação atual politico não pode cobrar em dinheiro o uso da imagem pública. ̴̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 01:17, 30 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ymblanter: Translation (portuguese to english)ː Under the Brazilian copyright law, the person who wants to use the image has to mention the source of the image, this was informed, I informed who is the owner of the image in the case himself Claudio Castro, that is his official photo of disclosure as a political, and by current political legislation can not charge in cash the use of the public image. Ana Gauna (talk) 01:17, 30 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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̺@EugeneZelenko: Eu sou um Microsoft Partner Cloud Solution Provider (https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/profile/ana%20gauna). Eu instalei o Microsoft Windows Server 2016 Preview 5, e aquela imagem foi uma captura da tela do meu computador. O senhor apagou aquela imagem indevidamente. Eu utilizei o Windows Server. Eu fiz o curso de MCSE Windows Server anos atrás, eu sou técnico profissional com formação técnica oficial da Microsoft Brasil. Ana Gauna (talk) 20:40, 14 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@EugeneZelenko: I am a Microsoft Partner Cloud Solution Provider (https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/profile/ana%20gauna). I installed Microsoft Windows Server 2016 Preview 5, and that image was a screenshot of my computer. You erased that image wrongly. I used Windows Server. I took the MCSE Windows Server course years ago, I am a professional technician with an official technical background from Microsoft Brazil ̴̴Ana Gauna (talk) 20:40, 14 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please read Commons:Screenshots. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:30, 15 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@EugeneZelenko: Esse evento SINS UFRJ 2018 - Simpósio Internacional Network Science foi presencial, foi realizado no Rio de Janeiro, Brasil, eu estive presente em todos os dias do evento, lá teve palestras de vários assuntos relativo a tecnologia: Big Data, Data Science, Inteligência Artificial, etc. Eu tirei diversas fotografias desse evento. Ana Gauna (talk) 20:49, 14 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@EugeneZelenko: This event SINS UFRJ 2018 - International Symposium Network Science was present, was held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, I was present in all the days of the event, there had lectures on various subjects related to technology: Big Data, Data Science, Artificial Intelligence , etc. I took several photos of this event. Ana Gauna (talk) 20:49, 14 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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  • BevinKacon Eu usei o Windows Server 2016 anos atrás. Eu uso o Windows Server já tem muitos anos em meus computadores. Essa imagem é de um dos meus computadores que usei na época. Atualmente eu estou usando o Microsoft Windows Server 2019. Ana Gauna (talk) 21:37, 15 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Translation: I used Windows Server 2016 years ago. I use Windows Server for many years now on my computers. This image is from one of my computers that I used at the time. I am currently using Microsoft Windows Server 2019. Ana Gauna (talk) 21:37, 15 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I already updated the license in the file Ana Gauna (talk) 20:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Yours sincerely, Didym (talk) 16:58, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Source of derivative work is not properly indicated: File:Bíblia Sagrada - Editora Barsa 6.jpg[edit]

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And also:

Yours sincerely, Didym (talk) 17:02, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

this a one very old BOOK. These maps are the Holy Land, these maps are inside this book of the Holy Bible, by Editora Barsa, this book is from the 50s Ana Gauna (talk) 18:15, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Hamdan Bin Mohammed Bin Rashid AI Maktoum.png[edit]

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--Didym (talk) 17:34, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've been following Sheikh Fazza on social media for 3 years, he always shows me videos and photographs of his work at the General Directorate of Dubai, United Arab Emirates Ana Gauna (talk) 18:28, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sheikh Fazza showed me these photographs from the COP28 UAE event in Dubai, United Arab Emirates from the first day of that event. Ana Gauna (talk) 18:31, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright violations[edit]

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This is your last warning. The next time you upload a file that violates copyright, you will be blocked. Please leave me a message if you have further questions.

--Didym (talk) 17:35, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Sheikh Hamdan Mohammed Rashid AI Maktoum - Gov Dubai.jpg[edit]

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A1Cafel (talk) 03:46, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

These photos are free to use.  I sent these photographs using the Commons mobile app for 5G Android 13. I used the Commons license option that the Commons mobile app showed for me to use.  I have been following Sheikh Hamdan Mohammed Rashid AI Maktoum Fazza and his brothers since 2020 on TikTok and Instagram.  Sometimes I fight with one of them and unfollow them all for a month, two months, then I forgive them and follow them all again.  I talk to them, I watch their videos and photos on TikTok and Instagram since 2020. These photographs of Fazza and his father that I sent to Commons, I put everything in their correct category so they can use them on their pages. Wikipedia.  Deleting their photographs is completely absurd, they represent the Government of Dubai United Arab Emirates, their page exists on Wikipedia in several languages.  They blocked me unduly, I didn't do anything wrong.  I placed Fazza's photographs within the Fazza category that is used within his Wikipedia. Ana Mercedes Gauna (talk) 17:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

App Commons for Mobile Android[edit]

Within the Commons Application for a 5G cell phone with Android 13, the total count of files I uploaded is not appearing in my Commons account, nor is the count of file usage statistics within Wikipedia, Wikidata, etc. projects. An error message is appearing in the cell phone application. Ana Mercedes Gauna (talk) 08:01, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deleted content[edit]

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Yours sincerely, Didym (talk) 18:24, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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--Didym (talk) 18:26, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is complete nonsense. These photos are free to use. Ana Mercedes Gauna (talk) 01:12, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
These photos are free to use. I sent these photographs using the Commons mobile app for 5G Android 13. I used the Commons license option that the Commons mobile app showed for me to use. I have been following Sheikh Hamdan Mohammed Rashid AI Maktoum Fazza and his brothers since 2020 on TikTok and Instagram. Sometimes I fight with one of them and unfollow them all for a month, two months, then I forgive them and follow them all again. I talk to them, I watch their videos and photos on TikTok and Instagram since 2020. These photographs of Fazza and his father that I sent to Commons, I put everything in their correct category so they can use them on their pages. Wikipedia. Deleting their photographs is completely absurd, they represent the Government of Dubai United Arab Emirates, their page exists on Wikipedia in several languages. They blocked me unduly, I didn't do anything wrong. I placed Fazza's photographs within the Fazza category that is used within his Wikipedia. Ana Mercedes Gauna (talk) 16:49, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You can't just upload photographs you didn't take as own work and license them. What makes you believe those images are freely licensed? --Didym (talk) 17:12, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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